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People would be swapping their general-use css files like they swap start pages. I think it could be done without stunting the page owners creativity by cleaning up some of the ugly ways of doing things and moving some css properties to html.</div></div><div class="recent">The 5 newest replies are shown below.<br><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354">Read this thread from the beginning.</a></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(8,1713095354)">8</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 16:03</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/5" class="postlink">>>5</a><br>Neat site. Has a lot personality with actual active forums. May not agree with every users on there. I would say nice site indeed.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(9,1713095354)">9</span> Name: <span class="name sage">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 16:32</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/1" class="postlink">>>1</a> I should have said, I meant changes to technology not culture, otherwise this will be a predictable circlejerk.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(10,1713095354)">10</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 06:50</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/12" onmouseover="set_hover('12')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>12</a></div><div class="comment">No direct downloads or streaming only torrents are allowed now</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(11,1713095354)">11</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 14:19</span></div><div class="comment">they should make that shit harder to use. cut the internet tubes and start over</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(12,1713095354)">12</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 15:37</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/10" class="postlink">>>10</a><br><br>You mean IPFS?</div></div><div class="form 1713095354"><form action="/post.cgi" method="post" id="form1713095354" onsubmit="set_cookie(name.value,'name');this.reply.disabled=true"><input type="hidden" name="board" value="technology"><input type="hidden" name="thread" value="1713095354">Name: <input type="text" name="name"> <label><input type="checkbox" name="sage"><span></span> Sage</label> <input type="submit" value="Preview" name="reply"> <input type="submit" value="Reply" name="reply"> <br><textarea name="message" rows="5" cols="64"></textarea><div class="hide">Leave this field blank: <textarea rows="2" name="comment"></textarea></div></form></div><div class="links"><a class="quickreplytoggle hide" onclick="quick_reply(1713095354)">Reply</a> <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354">Entire thread</a> <a class="threadlistlink" href="#threadlist">Thread list</a></div></div></div><div id="1713249163" class="shell-thread"><div><div class="subject"><span class="threadpost">[2:4<span class="sortinfo hide">:<span class="lastbump">1713272194</span>:<span class="lastpost">1713272194</span>:<span class="threadage">1713249163</span>:<span class="postcount">4</span></span>]</span> <h2><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713249163">Instant photography and its consequences</a></h2></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(1,1713249163)">1</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 06:32</span></div><div class="comment">Instant photography and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.<br><br>I must not be the only person on this site with a similar sentiment. The obsession with and accessibility of instant digital photography has fundamentally changed the way in which people interact within the world. People no longer live experiences; they record them. The Western world and parts of Asia I believe have been the most heavily affected by this dreadful phenomenon. Billions of humans that now think it is totally normal to broadcast extremely intimate parts of their lives (mundane things too of course) to the greater population. Not to the mention the privacy ramifications that have arisen as a result. As Richard Stallman said, and I’m paraphrasing slightly here; “Cellphones would have been Stalans dream”. People now willingly upload their crimes onto social media platforms. That is really the level of information desensitisation that we are dealing with here. The worst part is that due to the rising levels of technological integration in our daily lives it Is getting harder and harder to simply opt out (at least for most “normal” people). And, on top of that, even if you DO choose to opt out, you will most likely STILL be integrated into the system via third parties one way or another; (Family/Work photographs, mandatory identification for more and more mundane issues, security cameras, random people filming for social media on the street, non libre software, e.t.c…) . At this point unless you are a proper hiki/recluse (an ideal that is sadly not feasible for most people) you are forced into the system. What was once an optional tool has slowly become, through gradual behavioural decay, an item that most would not even be able to conceive living without. Sort of digital Stockholm syndrome I guess. In terms of mitigation tactics I come up empty handed. I thought we could maybe generate some ideas in this thread regarding what could be done about this. Above all else, if you still possess a smartphone I would highly suggest that you really reflect on how necessary it is to you and consider getting rid of it. If you really need long distance communication, use mail or a “dumbphone”, if you love photography as an artform, use an actual camera and if you enjoy music while out of the house, simply download the songs and put them onto an mp3 player.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(2,1713249163)">2</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 10:01</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713249163/3" onmouseover="set_hover('3')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>3</a></div><div class="comment">Agreed. Another thing is, it didn't ruin the integrity of painting/other visual arts, but I would say in a world that previously held painting as an important and esteemed craft, instant photography caused most of the human race to devalue it.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(3,1713249163)">3</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 11:19</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713249163/2" class="postlink">>>2</a><br>Yes I agree too. Even more so recently with the massive rise of AI slop that is polluting the internet and taking value away from digital visual media.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(4,1713249163)">4</span> Name: <span class="name">Air</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 12:56</span></div><div class="comment">imo a lot isn't gonna change for better unless mass amounts of ppl work for it and/or those who get the most out of having systems like this don't have that power anymore. most ppl it's kinda scary how quickly it seems like people just accepted this. what pisses me off the most is randos just post strangers minding their own business to farm them for likes or video content. i hope at least ppl get sick of that shit, and maybe the tik tokers being so annoying and weird might be turning a small tide on that. but enough to do anything? we'll see ig. i'm not too positive in all honesty.<br><br>what i do know you're right about getting a camera. i found an old one from the 2000s in my place and it's been awesome so far.</div></div><div class="form 1713249163"><form action="/post.cgi" method="post" id="form1713249163" onsubmit="set_cookie(name.value,'name');this.reply.disabled=true"><input type="hidden" name="board" value="technology"><input type="hidden" name="thread" value="1713249163">Name: <input type="text" name="name"> <label><input type="checkbox" name="sage"><span></span> Sage</label> <input type="submit" value="Preview" name="reply"> <input type="submit" value="Reply" name="reply"> <br><textarea name="message" rows="5" cols="64"></textarea><div class="hide">Leave this field blank: <textarea rows="2" name="comment"></textarea></div></form></div><div class="links"><a class="quickreplytoggle hide" onclick="quick_reply(1713249163)">Reply</a> <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713249163">Entire thread</a> <a class="threadlistlink" href="#threadlist">Thread list</a></div></div></div><div id="1713041424" class="shell-thread"><div><div class="subject"><span class="threadpost">[3:21<span class="sortinfo hide">:<span class="lastbump">1713181876</span>:<span class="lastpost">1713181876</span>:<span class="threadage">1713041424</span>:<span class="postcount">21</span></span>]</span> <h2><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424">Arch is only thing u should install</a></h2></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(1,1713041424)">1</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-13 20:50</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/19" onmouseover="set_hover('19')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>19</a></div><div class="comment">Prove me wrong</div></div><div class="recent">The 5 newest replies are shown below.<br><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424">Read this thread from the beginning.</a></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(17,1713041424)">17</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 18:26</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/18" onmouseover="set_hover('18')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>18</a></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/16" class="postlink">>>16</a><br>Is there anything in particular you're thinking of that has high variables or tedium getting set up that you can screw up easily?<br><br>I'm OP. I got pretty tied up with networking, I'd say this has the highest chance of tripping people up. Second highest I'd say is sound. I am glad that I had the experience of getting stuck and solving these issues though and I'd know exactly the steps to take if I had a networking issue on any other distro now as well. I think Arch pays off the best and is your best friend for information. Yeah the Arch-based distros are a good choice too because you pretty much get the consistency with arch's documentation. When I was on Debian I found myself using Arch wiki and since slight differences slowed me down I decided I prefer Arch so it's all consistent syntax and and directories and whatnot.<br><br><em>(<a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/17">Post truncated</a>)</em></div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(18,1713041424)">18</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 21:02</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/17" class="postlink">>>17</a><br>honestly the biggest pain in the ass while I was using arch was trying to config my greeter. there were obviously other more minor issues, but trying to resolve that one was what eventually bricked my system and made me never go back.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(19,1713041424)">19</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 21:09</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/1" class="postlink">>>1</a><br><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/4" class="postlink">>>4</a><br>arch + nix has been working really well for me</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(20,1713041424)">20</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-15 03:30</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/21" onmouseover="set_hover('21')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>21</a></div><div class="comment">i know enough about ubuntu to use it as my daily system and enough about debian in general to use it on proxmox vms to run random stuff like pihole and whatnot, though id say im probably still a total noob when it comes to more advanced stuff. Ive never really looked into arch so i dont really understand the massive hype around it. like what makes it so much better than debian? does it have support for more programs than debian? can it run vms better?</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(21,1713041424)">21</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-15 11:51</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/20" class="postlink">>>20</a><br>Well everything I prefer about Arch doesn't really have anything to do with support. Infact the only thing I can think of is I think theres some wlroots WMs that aren't packaged on Debian so they take a bit more effort to install. But both distros tend to have great coverage on packages.<br><br>In Debian I don't see why I have to switch into the console between two of the steps in the installation wizard so I can properly add my BTRFS subvolumes, it makes having a wizard feel pointless. Then when I'm doing something later that needs documentation, I might read Arch wiki because its so helpful. 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<!DOCTYPE html><html lang="en"><head><meta charset="UTF-8"><meta id="meta" name="viewport" content="width=device-width; initial-scale=1.0"><title>technology</title><script async src="/isotope.pkgd.min.js"></script><script async src="/script.js"></script><link rel="stylesheet" title="default" href="/style.css"><link rel="stylesheet" disabled title="0" href="/"></head><body id="frontpage"><div class="shell"><div class="boardnav"><form name="boardselector"><select name="SelectURL" onChange="document.location.href=document.boardselector.SelectURL.options[document.boardselector.SelectURL.selectedIndex].value"><option value="/all.cgi">[all] Recent Posts<option value="/lounge" >/lounge/ lounge<option value="/media" >/media/ media<option value="/otaku" >/otaku/ otaku<option value="/shill" >/shill/ shill<option value="/film" >/film/ film<option value="/gaming" >/gaming/ gaming<option value="/technology" selected>/technology/ technology</select></form><span class="boardbar"><span>[ <a href="/all.cgi">all</a> ]</span><span class="boards">[ <a class="lounge" href="/lounge/">lounge</a> / <a class="media" href="/media/">media</a> / <a class="otaku" href="/otaku/">otaku</a> / <a class="shill" href="/shill/">shill</a> / <a class="film" href="/film/">film</a> / <a class="gaming" href="/gaming/">gaming</a> / technology ]</span></span><span class="right"><span class="optiontoggle hide">[ <a onclick="toggle_class('optionmenu', 'hide')">Options</a> ]</span><span>[ <a href="/">Home</a> ]</span></span></div><div id="options" class="optionmenu hide"><button id="isotoggle" href="#options" class="button" onclick="toggle_option('isotope');return false;">Isotope</button><div class="isotopeoptions"><div>LAYOUT:<select id="layout" onchange="iso_layout(this.options[this.selectedIndex].value);return false;"><option value="vertical">Classic</option><option value="masonry">Perfect Fit</option><option value="fitRows">Line fit</option></select></div><div>SORT:<select id="sort" onchange="iso_sort(this.options[this.selectedIndex].value);return false;"><option value="lastbump">Last Bumped</option><option value="lastpost">Last Posted</option><option value="threadage">Thread Age</option><option value="postcount">Post Count</option><option value="random">Random</option></select></div><div>FILTER:<select id="filter" onchange="iso_filter(this.options[this.selectedIndex].value);return false;"><option value="0">None</option><option value="10800">3 hours</option><option value="43200">12 hours</option><option value="86400">1 day</option><option value="604800">1 week</option><option value="2629743">1 month</option></select></div></div>​</div></div><div class="grid"><div id="1713095354" class="shell-thread"><div><div class="subject"><span class="threadpost">[1:12<span class="sortinfo hide">:<span class="lastbump">1713281820</span>:<span class="lastpost">1713281820</span>:<span class="threadage">1713095354</span>:<span class="postcount">12</span></span>]</span> <h2><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354">What changes would you make to the web?</a></h2></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(1,1713095354)">1</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 11:49</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/9" onmouseover="set_hover('9')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>9</a></div><div class="comment">The simplicity of this site has got me thinking that it would be cool if every site was so simple and similar that you could reliably take the css file from one and use it in another. People would be swapping their general-use css files like they swap start pages. I think it could be done without stunting the page owners creativity by cleaning up some of the ugly ways of doing things and moving some css properties to html.</div></div><div class="recent">The 5 newest replies are shown below.<br><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354">Read this thread from the beginning.</a></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(8,1713095354)">8</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 16:03</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/5" class="postlink">>>5</a><br>Neat site. Has a lot personality with actual active forums. May not agree with every users on there. I would say nice site indeed.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(9,1713095354)">9</span> Name: <span class="name sage">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 16:32</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/1" class="postlink">>>1</a> I should have said, I meant changes to technology not culture, otherwise this will be a predictable circlejerk.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(10,1713095354)">10</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 06:50</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/12" onmouseover="set_hover('12')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>12</a></div><div class="comment">No direct downloads or streaming only torrents are allowed now</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(11,1713095354)">11</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 14:19</span></div><div class="comment">they should make that shit harder to use. cut the internet tubes and start over</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(12,1713095354)">12</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 15:37</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354/10" class="postlink">>>10</a><br><br>You mean IPFS?</div></div><div class="form 1713095354"><form action="/post.cgi" method="post" id="form1713095354" onsubmit="set_cookie(name.value,'name');this.reply.disabled=true"><input type="hidden" name="board" value="technology"><input type="hidden" name="thread" value="1713095354">Name: <input type="text" name="name"> <label><input type="checkbox" name="sage"><span></span> Sage</label> <input type="submit" value="Preview" name="reply"> <input type="submit" value="Reply" name="reply"> <br><textarea name="message" rows="5" cols="64"></textarea><div class="hide">Leave this field blank: <textarea rows="2" name="comment"></textarea></div></form></div><div class="links"><a class="quickreplytoggle hide" onclick="quick_reply(1713095354)">Reply</a> <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713095354">Entire thread</a> <a class="threadlistlink" href="#threadlist">Thread list</a></div></div></div><div id="1713249163" class="shell-thread"><div><div class="subject"><span class="threadpost">[2:4<span class="sortinfo hide">:<span class="lastbump">1713272194</span>:<span class="lastpost">1713272194</span>:<span class="threadage">1713249163</span>:<span class="postcount">4</span></span>]</span> <h2><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713249163">Instant photography and its consequences</a></h2></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(1,1713249163)">1</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 06:32</span></div><div class="comment">Instant photography and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.<br><br>I must not be the only person on this site with a similar sentiment. The obsession with and accessibility of instant digital photography has fundamentally changed the way in which people interact within the world. People no longer live experiences; they record them. The Western world and parts of Asia I believe have been the most heavily affected by this dreadful phenomenon. Billions of humans that now think it is totally normal to broadcast extremely intimate parts of their lives (mundane things too of course) to the greater population. Not to the mention the privacy ramifications that have arisen as a result. As Richard Stallman said, and I’m paraphrasing slightly here; “Cellphones would have been Stalans dream”. People now willingly upload their crimes onto social media platforms. That is really the level of information desensitisation that we are dealing with here. The worst part is that due to the rising levels of technological integration in our daily lives it Is getting harder and harder to simply opt out (at least for most “normal” people). And, on top of that, even if you DO choose to opt out, you will most likely STILL be integrated into the system via third parties one way or another; (Family/Work photographs, mandatory identification for more and more mundane issues, security cameras, random people filming for social media on the street, non libre software, e.t.c…) . At this point unless you are a proper hiki/recluse (an ideal that is sadly not feasible for most people) you are forced into the system. What was once an optional tool has slowly become, through gradual behavioural decay, an item that most would not even be able to conceive living without. Sort of digital Stockholm syndrome I guess. In terms of mitigation tactics I come up empty handed. I thought we could maybe generate some ideas in this thread regarding what could be done about this. Above all else, if you still possess a smartphone I would highly suggest that you really reflect on how necessary it is to you and consider getting rid of it. If you really need long distance communication, use mail or a “dumbphone”, if you love photography as an artform, use an actual camera and if you enjoy music while out of the house, simply download the songs and put them onto an mp3 player.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(2,1713249163)">2</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 10:01</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713249163/3" onmouseover="set_hover('3')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>3</a></div><div class="comment">Agreed. Another thing is, it didn't ruin the integrity of painting/other visual arts, but I would say in a world that previously held painting as an important and esteemed craft, instant photography caused most of the human race to devalue it.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(3,1713249163)">3</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 11:19</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713249163/2" class="postlink">>>2</a><br>Yes I agree too. Even more so recently with the massive rise of AI slop that is polluting the internet and taking value away from digital visual media.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(4,1713249163)">4</span> Name: <span class="name">Air</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-16 12:56</span></div><div class="comment">imo a lot isn't gonna change for better unless mass amounts of ppl work for it and/or those who get the most out of having systems like this don't have that power anymore. most ppl it's kinda scary how quickly it seems like people just accepted this. what pisses me off the most is randos just post strangers minding their own business to farm them for likes or video content. i hope at least ppl get sick of that shit, and maybe the tik tokers being so annoying and weird might be turning a small tide on that. but enough to do anything? we'll see ig. i'm not too positive in all honesty.<br><br>what i do know you're right about getting a camera. i found an old one from the 2000s in my place and it's been awesome so far.</div></div><div class="form 1713249163"><form action="/post.cgi" method="post" id="form1713249163" onsubmit="set_cookie(name.value,'name');this.reply.disabled=true"><input type="hidden" name="board" value="technology"><input type="hidden" name="thread" value="1713249163">Name: <input type="text" name="name"> <label><input type="checkbox" name="sage"><span></span> Sage</label> <input type="submit" value="Preview" name="reply"> <input type="submit" value="Reply" name="reply"> <br><textarea name="message" rows="5" cols="64"></textarea><div class="hide">Leave this field blank: <textarea rows="2" name="comment"></textarea></div></form></div><div class="links"><a class="quickreplytoggle hide" onclick="quick_reply(1713249163)">Reply</a> <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713249163">Entire thread</a> <a class="threadlistlink" href="#threadlist">Thread list</a></div></div></div><div id="1713041424" class="shell-thread"><div><div class="subject"><span class="threadpost">[3:21<span class="sortinfo hide">:<span class="lastbump">1713181876</span>:<span class="lastpost">1713181876</span>:<span class="threadage">1713041424</span>:<span class="postcount">21</span></span>]</span> <h2><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424">Arch is only thing u should install</a></h2></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(1,1713041424)">1</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-13 20:50</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/19" onmouseover="set_hover('19')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>19</a></div><div class="comment">Prove me wrong</div></div><div class="recent">The 5 newest replies are shown below.<br><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424">Read this thread from the beginning.</a></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(17,1713041424)">17</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 18:26</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/18" onmouseover="set_hover('18')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>18</a></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/16" class="postlink">>>16</a><br>Is there anything in particular you're thinking of that has high variables or tedium getting set up that you can screw up easily?<br><br>I'm OP. I got pretty tied up with networking, I'd say this has the highest chance of tripping people up. Second highest I'd say is sound. I am glad that I had the experience of getting stuck and solving these issues though and I'd know exactly the steps to take if I had a networking issue on any other distro now as well. I think Arch pays off the best and is your best friend for information. Yeah the Arch-based distros are a good choice too because you pretty much get the consistency with arch's documentation. When I was on Debian I found myself using Arch wiki and since slight differences slowed me down I decided I prefer Arch so it's all consistent syntax and and directories and whatnot.<br><br><em>(<a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/17">Post truncated</a>)</em></div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(18,1713041424)">18</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 21:02</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/17" class="postlink">>>17</a><br>honestly the biggest pain in the ass while I was using arch was trying to config my greeter. there were obviously other more minor issues, but trying to resolve that one was what eventually bricked my system and made me never go back.</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(19,1713041424)">19</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-14 21:09</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/1" class="postlink">>>1</a><br><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/4" class="postlink">>>4</a><br>arch + nix has been working really well for me</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(20,1713041424)">20</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-15 03:30</span></div><div class="backlinks">Quoted by: <a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/21" onmouseover="set_hover('21')" onmouseout="reset_hover()">>>21</a></div><div class="comment">i know enough about ubuntu to use it as my daily system and enough about debian in general to use it on proxmox vms to run random stuff like pihole and whatnot, though id say im probably still a total noob when it comes to more advanced stuff. Ive never really looked into arch so i dont really understand the massive hype around it. like what makes it so much better than debian? does it have support for more programs than debian? can it run vms better?</div></div><div class="post"><div class="posthead"><span class="num" onclick="quote(21,1713041424)">21</span> Name: <span class="name">Anonymous</span> <span class="trip"></span> <span class="time">2024-04-15 11:51</span></div><div class="comment"><a href="/read.cgi/technology/1713041424/20" class="postlink">>>20</a><br>Well everything I prefer about Arch doesn't really have anything to do with support. Infact the only thing I can think of is I think theres some wlroots WMs that aren't packaged on Debian so they take a bit more effort to install. But both distros tend to have great coverage on packages.<br><br>In Debian I don't see why I have to switch into the console between two of the steps in the installation wizard so I can properly add my BTRFS subvolumes, it makes having a wizard feel pointless. Then when I'm doing something later that needs documentation, I might read Arch wiki because its so helpful. 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